Ocean Matters Podcast: Lawlessness at Sea

Izzie Clarke speaks with Ian Urbina in an Ocean Matters Podcast interview. They discuss issues about lawlessness at sea and how fishing is having a huge impact on the lives of humans.  Slavery, abduction and even murders are taking place on fishing fleets around the world and with these crimes are being committed far from land, they are unknown or perhaps even unthinkable to most of us.