Podcast Rising Tide #47: Still an Outlaw Ocean

David Helvarg and Vicki Nichols-Goldstein welcome back Ian Urbina who was on Rising Tide’s first episode.  They discuss his latest reporting for the New Yorker magazine on how thousands of climate refugees from Africa seeking to cross the Mediterranean are being seized by Libyan Militias who also kidnapped and beat Ian while he was working on this story. 

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